Oblivion:Alchemy Training

Current Best Route

Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.

In Cloud Ruler Temple, acquire the Tamika Vintage 399 and Surilie Brothers Vintage 399 wine bottles upstairs next to the bed in the main bedroom. (You must already be a member of the Blades for these to not count as stolen.)
Cast a spell to boost your Alchemy to 70+ and immediately talk to Ardaline in the Bravil Mages Guild.
↳ Training. (10)
Fast travel to Skingrad to enter the West Weald Inn.
Enter the basement and talk to Sinderion.
↳ Training. (20)

↳ Training. (✔ 100)

Bugs

Currently there are no known bugs associated with this quest that affect the 100% route.

Route Logic Considerations

The Tamika Vintage 399 and Surilie Brothers Vintage 399 should be acquired before visiting Sinderion for the first time to prevent backtracking. Ideally these items should not have the stolen flag to avoid losing them throughout the run up to the point that this quest is completed. The Cloud Ruler Temple West Wing is an ideal location to acquire these items since both bottles are right next to each other (along with Cyrodilic Brandy, which is needed for Sanguine) and do not count as stolen if you've joined the Blades. You can join the Blades right after completing Weynon Priory, so you should complete that quest before this one.
Sinderion can be killed to complete this quest, but he is kept alive in order to finish his other quest, Seeking Your Roots. We should probably kill him right after finishing that quest to make this one faster, but we have not tested this yet.
Like all the Master Training quests, the actual Master Trainer needs to be alive prior to starting the quest in order to be able to complete it.
Ardaline in the Bravil Mages Guild and Brotch Calus in Bruma are both able to start this quest. Ardaline is the better choice since she lives in a location that overlaps with multiple other quests (Bravil Recommendation, More Unfinished Business, and several other Master Training quests.).

Script Analysis

No script analysis has been done for this quest.

Quest Stages

Alchemy Training (TrainingAlchemy)
Stage	Finish	Journal Entry
10		I need to seek out Sinderion in Skingrad if I wish to learn more about Alchemy.
20		Sinderion has asked that I bring him a bottle of Tamika's Vintage 399 wine, and a bottle of Surilie Brother's Vintage 399 wine. I should acquire them so that he will agree to train me.
100	✔	I have completed Sinderion's task, and he has agreed to train me in Alchemy.
200	✔	Sinderion is dead. It will be impossible for me to receive further Alchemy training.

Quests

Main Quest

Tutorial • Deliver the Amulet • Find the Heir • Breaking the Siege of Kvatch • The Battle for Castle Kvatch • Weynon Priory • The Path of Dawn • Dagon Shrine • Spies • Blood of the Daedra • Bruma Gate • Allies for Bruma • Blood of the Divines • Miscarcand • Defense of Bruma • Great Gate • Paradise • Light the Dragonfires • Imperial Dragon Armor

Factions

Dark Brotherhood	A Knife in the Dark • Welcome to the Family • A Watery Grave • Blood of the Damned • Accidents Happen • No Rest for the Wicked • Scheduled for Execution • To Serve Sithis • The Assassinated Man • My Brother's Keeper • The Lonely Wanderer • Enter the Eliminator • Bad Medicine • The Night Mother's Child • Whodunit? • The Assassin's Gambit • Permanent Retirement • Of Secret and Shadow • The Purification • The Dead Drop • Affairs of a Wizard • Next of Kin • Broken Vows • Final Justice • A Matter of Honor • The Coldest Sleep • A Kiss Before Dying • Following a Lead • Honor Thy Mother • The Renegade Shadowscale • Darkness Eternal • Whispers of Death § A Dark Exile • Another Dark Exile • Eternal Exile
Fighters Guild	Join the Fighters Guild • A Rat Problem • The Unfortunate Shopkeeper • The Desolate Mine • Unfinished Business • Drunk and Disorderly • Den of Thieves • Amelion's Debt • The Master's Son • More Unfinished Business • Azani Blackheart • The Wandering Scholar • The Fugitives • Trolls of Forsaken Mine • The Stone of St. Alessia • The Noble's Daughter • Mystery at Harlun's Watch • Information Gathering • Infiltration • The Hist § Expelled from the Fighters Guild
Mages Guild	Join the Mages Guild • Bravil Recommendation • Leyawiin Recommendation • Cheydinhal Recommendation • Fingers of the Mountain • Fingers of the Mountain, Part II • Bruma Recommendation • Skingrad Recommendation • Anvil Recommendation • A Mage's Staff • Ulterior Motives • Vahtacen's Secret • Necromancer's Moon • Liberation or Apprehension? • Information at a Price • A Plot Revealed • The Bloodworm Helm • The Necromancer's Amulet • Ambush • Confront the King § Mages Guild Suspension • Mages Guild Second Suspension • Alchemy Acquisitions
Thieves Guild	Finding the Thieves Guild • May the Best Thief Win and Blood Price • Independent Thievery • Untaxing the Poor • The Elven Maiden and Blood Price • Ahdarji's Heirloom and Blood Price • Misdirection and Blood Price • Lost Histories and Blood Price • Taking Care of Lex and Blood Price • Turning a Blind Eye and Blood Price • Arrow of Extrication and Blood Price • Boots of Springheel Jak and Blood Price • The Ultimate Heist § Cast out of the Thieves Guild
The Arena	The Arena

Side Quests

Daedric Shrines	Azura • Boethia • Clavicus Vile • Hircine • Malacath • Mephala • Meridia • Molag Bal • Namira • Nocturnal • Peryite • Sanguine • Sheogorath • Vaermina • Hermaeus Mora
Master Training	Acrobatics Training • Alchemy Training • Alteration Training • Armorer Training • Athletics Training • Blade Training • Block Training • Blunt Training • Conjuration Training • Destruction Training • Hand to Hand Training • Heavy Armor Training • Illusion Training • Light Armor Training • Marksman Training • Mercantile Training • Mysticism Training • Restoration Training • Security Training • Sneak Training • Speechcraft Training
City Quests	Newheim's Flagon • Where Spirits Have Lease • The Siren's Deception • The Ghost Ship of Anvil • Caught in the Hunt • Through A Nightmare, Darkly • The Forlorn Watchman • Buying a house in Bravil • Two Sides of the Coin • A Brotherhood Betrayed • Lifting the Vale • Buying a house in Bruma • A Brush with Death • Buying a house in Cheydinhal • Corruption and Conscience • The Wayward Knight • The Killing Field • A Shadow Over Hackdirt • Canvas the Castle • Buying a house in Chorrol • Separated at Birth • Legacy Lost • Sins of the Father • Buy a house in the Imperial City • Unfriendly Competition • The Order of the Virtuous Blood • Imperial Corruption • An Unexpected Voyage • Origin of the Gray Prince • Vampire Cure • The Collector • Nothing You Can Possess • Secrets of the Ayleids • Raid on Greyland • Tears of the Savior • Whom Gods Annoy • Buying a house in Leyawiin • Mazoga the Orc • Knights of the White Stallion • Paranoia • Seeking Your Roots • Buying a house in Skingrad • Helping Hands • The Rosethorn Cache
Villages/Inns	A Venerable Vintage • Bear Season • Go Fish • Goblin Trouble • No Stone Unturned • Revenge Served Cold • The Gravefinder's Repose • The Potato Snatcher • The Sunken One • When the Vow Breaks • Zero Visibility

Journal-Filled

Cast out of the Thieves Guild • Expelled from the Fighters Guild • The Arena • Whispers of Death

Impossible

Eternal Exile

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