Oblivion:Finding the Thieves Guild

Current Best Route

Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.

Fast travel to the Imperial City Waterfront District.
Read the wanted poster on the side of the archway behind you.
Go through the archway and hug the right wall until you get to the Garden of Dareloth just over the stone fence.
Wait until midnight, then talk to Puny Ancus, who is a beggar sleeping in a bed near the shack.
Bribe to max disposition.

↳ Gray Fox.

↳ Yes, I want to work with him. (40)
Talk to Armand Christophe, who is nearby holding a torch.
↳ Gray Fox.

↳ Join the Thieves Guild. (✔ 100)

Bugs

This quest has a unique and significant bug. If you talk to go straight to Armand and bribe him to get into the Thieves Guild instead of getting a recommendation from a beggar or Myvryna Arano, the quest will never be started and therefore never be counted as complete, despite the game internally tracking the quest as having progressed to the final stage after joining the Thieves Guild. This results in the game considering the quest complete without actually updating the Quests Completed statistic in the Accomplishments tab. This behavior has not been observed in any other quest.

Route Logic Considerations

Due to the bug mentioned above, this fastest way to correctly start this quest is to talk to Puny Ancus just before talking to Armand since he sleeps right next to the location of the meeting.

Script Analysis

No script analysis has been done for this quest.

Quest Stages

Finding the Thieves Guild (TG00FindThievesGuild)
Stage	Finish	Journal Entry
10		(The player is released from jail; start Myvryna searching for PC with mysterious note)
20		(Note is delivered; add "Mysterious Note" topic)
30		I was given a mysterious note by a mysterious Dark Elf. It offers greater wealth and less jail time. Maybe I should check it out. I have to wait until midnight, and then go to the Garden of Dareloth.
40		A beggar told me that if I want to find the Gray Fox, I should look for the Garden of Dareloth in the Waterfront District of the Imperial City around midnight. The Gray Fox is the only clue I have to the mysterious Thieves Guild.
100	✔

Quests

Main Quest

Tutorial • Deliver the Amulet • Find the Heir • Breaking the Siege of Kvatch • The Battle for Castle Kvatch • Weynon Priory • The Path of Dawn • Dagon Shrine • Spies • Blood of the Daedra • Bruma Gate • Allies for Bruma • Blood of the Divines • Miscarcand • Defense of Bruma • Great Gate • Paradise • Light the Dragonfires • Imperial Dragon Armor

Factions

Dark Brotherhood	A Knife in the Dark • Welcome to the Family • A Watery Grave • Blood of the Damned • Accidents Happen • No Rest for the Wicked • Scheduled for Execution • To Serve Sithis • The Assassinated Man • My Brother's Keeper • The Lonely Wanderer • Enter the Eliminator • Bad Medicine • The Night Mother's Child • Whodunit? • The Assassin's Gambit • Permanent Retirement • Of Secret and Shadow • The Purification • The Dead Drop • Affairs of a Wizard • Next of Kin • Broken Vows • Final Justice • A Matter of Honor • The Coldest Sleep • A Kiss Before Dying • Following a Lead • Honor Thy Mother • The Renegade Shadowscale • Darkness Eternal • Whispers of Death § A Dark Exile • Another Dark Exile • Eternal Exile
Fighters Guild	Join the Fighters Guild • A Rat Problem • The Unfortunate Shopkeeper • The Desolate Mine • Unfinished Business • Drunk and Disorderly • Den of Thieves • Amelion's Debt • The Master's Son • More Unfinished Business • Azani Blackheart • The Wandering Scholar • The Fugitives • Trolls of Forsaken Mine • The Stone of St. Alessia • The Noble's Daughter • Mystery at Harlun's Watch • Information Gathering • Infiltration • The Hist § Expelled from the Fighters Guild
Mages Guild	Join the Mages Guild • Bravil Recommendation • Leyawiin Recommendation • Cheydinhal Recommendation • Fingers of the Mountain • Fingers of the Mountain, Part II • Bruma Recommendation • Skingrad Recommendation • Anvil Recommendation • A Mage's Staff • Ulterior Motives • Vahtacen's Secret • Necromancer's Moon • Liberation or Apprehension? • Information at a Price • A Plot Revealed • The Bloodworm Helm • The Necromancer's Amulet • Ambush • Confront the King § Mages Guild Suspension • Mages Guild Second Suspension • Alchemy Acquisitions
Thieves Guild	Finding the Thieves Guild • May the Best Thief Win and Blood Price • Independent Thievery • Untaxing the Poor • The Elven Maiden and Blood Price • Ahdarji's Heirloom and Blood Price • Misdirection and Blood Price • Lost Histories and Blood Price • Taking Care of Lex and Blood Price • Turning a Blind Eye and Blood Price • Arrow of Extrication and Blood Price • Boots of Springheel Jak and Blood Price • The Ultimate Heist § Cast out of the Thieves Guild
The Arena	The Arena

Side Quests

Daedric Shrines	Azura • Boethia • Clavicus Vile • Hircine • Malacath • Mephala • Meridia • Molag Bal • Namira • Nocturnal • Peryite • Sanguine • Sheogorath • Vaermina • Hermaeus Mora
Master Training	Acrobatics Training • Alchemy Training • Alteration Training • Armorer Training • Athletics Training • Blade Training • Block Training • Blunt Training • Conjuration Training • Destruction Training • Hand to Hand Training • Heavy Armor Training • Illusion Training • Light Armor Training • Marksman Training • Mercantile Training • Mysticism Training • Restoration Training • Security Training • Sneak Training • Speechcraft Training
City Quests	Newheim's Flagon • Where Spirits Have Lease • The Siren's Deception • The Ghost Ship of Anvil • Caught in the Hunt • Through A Nightmare, Darkly • The Forlorn Watchman • Buying a house in Bravil • Two Sides of the Coin • A Brotherhood Betrayed • Lifting the Vale • Buying a house in Bruma • A Brush with Death • Buying a house in Cheydinhal • Corruption and Conscience • The Wayward Knight • The Killing Field • A Shadow Over Hackdirt • Canvas the Castle • Buying a house in Chorrol • Separated at Birth • Legacy Lost • Sins of the Father • Buy a house in the Imperial City • Unfriendly Competition • The Order of the Virtuous Blood • Imperial Corruption • An Unexpected Voyage • Origin of the Gray Prince • Vampire Cure • The Collector • Nothing You Can Possess • Secrets of the Ayleids • Raid on Greyland • Tears of the Savior • Whom Gods Annoy • Buying a house in Leyawiin • Mazoga the Orc • Knights of the White Stallion • Paranoia • Seeking Your Roots • Buying a house in Skingrad • Helping Hands • The Rosethorn Cache
Villages/Inns	A Venerable Vintage • Bear Season • Go Fish • Goblin Trouble • No Stone Unturned • Revenge Served Cold • The Gravefinder's Repose • The Potato Snatcher • The Sunken One • When the Vow Breaks • Zero Visibility

Journal-Filled

Cast out of the Thieves Guild • Expelled from the Fighters Guild • The Arena • Whispers of Death

Impossible

Eternal Exile

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