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''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.'' | ''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.'' | ||
# | # In the Cheydinhal Chapel, cast a spell to boost Speechcraft to 70+ and immediately talk to Gruiand Garrana. | ||
# | #: ↳ ''Training'' '''(10)''' | ||
# | # Fast travel to the Temple District and enter the temple to talk to Tandilwe. | ||
#: ↳ ''Training'' '''(20)''' | |||
# Kill Ragbag Buntara or any other beggar you can find outside in the Temple District around 9am. | |||
# Talk to Tandilwe again. | |||
#: ↳ ''Training'' '''(✔ 200)''' | |||
==Bugs== | ==Bugs== | ||
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==Route Logic Considerations== | ==Route Logic Considerations== | ||
* Tandilwe is essentially, so we can't fail the quest by killing her, but luckily we can still fail the quest by killing any beggar after being told to go talk to them all. | |||
* Like all the Master Training quests, the actual Master Trainer needs to be alive prior to starting the quest in order to be able to complete it. | |||
* Gruiand Garrana in the Chapel in the Temple District and Varon Vamori in Bravil both can start this quest. Although we directly talk to Varon Vamori during [[Oblivion:Bravil Recommendation|Bravil Recommendation]], this happens too early in the route logic to have our Speechcraft to 70+, making Gruiand Garrana the ideal NPC. Additionally, Ohtesse can start [[Oblivion:Restoration Training|Restoration Training]] in the same location as Gruiand Garrana. | |||
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==Script Analysis== | ==Script Analysis== | ||
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|| Tandilwe is dead. I have lost my chance to be taught more about Speechcraft. | || Tandilwe is dead. I have lost my chance to be taught more about Speechcraft. | ||
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Latest revision as of 23:58, 12 October 2022
Current Best Route
Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.
- In the Cheydinhal Chapel, cast a spell to boost Speechcraft to 70+ and immediately talk to Gruiand Garrana.
- ↳ Training (10)
- Fast travel to the Temple District and enter the temple to talk to Tandilwe.
- ↳ Training (20)
- Kill Ragbag Buntara or any other beggar you can find outside in the Temple District around 9am.
- Talk to Tandilwe again.
- ↳ Training (✔ 200)
Bugs
Currently there are no known bugs associated with this quest that affect the 100% route.
Route Logic Considerations
- Tandilwe is essentially, so we can't fail the quest by killing her, but luckily we can still fail the quest by killing any beggar after being told to go talk to them all.
- Like all the Master Training quests, the actual Master Trainer needs to be alive prior to starting the quest in order to be able to complete it.
- Gruiand Garrana in the Chapel in the Temple District and Varon Vamori in Bravil both can start this quest. Although we directly talk to Varon Vamori during Bravil Recommendation, this happens too early in the route logic to have our Speechcraft to 70+, making Gruiand Garrana the ideal NPC. Additionally, Ohtesse can start Restoration Training in the same location as Gruiand Garrana.
Script Analysis
No script analysis has been done for this quest.
Quest Stages
| Stage | Finish | setstage Scripts | Journal Entry |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 | If I want to learn more about Speechcraft, I need to seek out Tandilwe at the Temple of the One in the Imperial City. | ||
| 20 | I need to speak with every beggar in Cyrodiil before Tandilwe will agree to train me. | ||
| 100 | ✔ | Tandilwe has agreed to train me in Speechcraft. | |
| 200 | ✔ | Tandilwe has refused to ever train me, since one of the beggars has been killed. | |
| 255 | ✔ | Tandilwe is dead. I have lost my chance to be taught more about Speechcraft. |