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''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.'' | ''Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.'' | ||
# | # Fast travel to the Anvil Mages Guild. With your Illusion boosted to 70+ (''with [[Oblivion:Class Reset|Class Reset]] in the current route logic''), talk to Carahil. | ||
# | #: ↳ ''Training.'' '''(10)''' | ||
# | # Acquire a Welkynd Stone. (''This is done while getting the Ayleid Statue in Welke in current route logic.'') | ||
# [[Oblivion:Scroll Duping|Dupe]] the Welkynd Stone so that you have 10 of them. | |||
# Fast travel to the Quest Marker to talk to Martina Floria. | |||
#: ↳ ''Training.'' '''(20)''' | |||
#: ↳ ''Training.'' '''(✔ 100)''' | |||
==Bugs== | ==Bugs== | ||
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==Route Logic Considerations== | ==Route Logic Considerations== | ||
* By the time we are able to talk to Martina Floria, we are already a member of the Mages Guild and do not want to get kicked out by killing her instead of completing her quest normally. '''We should experiment with killing her to fulfill one instance of the [[Oblivion:Mages Guild Suspension|Mages Guild Suspension]].''' It is worth noting that every stage of this quest is achieved with virtually no extra time added to the run since all items and NPCs are directly next to other objectives, so this may not end up saving much time at all. | |||
* Martina Floria appears in the Chironasium around 12am, which is where you need to be at 12am to finish [[Oblivion:A Mage's Staff|A Mage's Staff]], so ideally you should be one step away from finishing Illusion Training before finishing A Mage's Staff to overlap the route logic. | |||
* | * Martina never leaves the Chironasium, meaning you either need to have completed [[Oblivion:Join the Mages Guild|Join the Mages Guild]] or set up the [[Oblivion:Early Arcane University Access|Early Arcane University]] glitch to be able to complete it. | ||
* | * Ideal sources for the Welkynd Stone are under-researched. See the item page for [[Oblivion:Welkynd Stone|Welkynd Stones]] for more info. | ||
* | * Like all the Master Training quests, the actual Master Trainer needs to be alive prior to starting the quest in order to be able to complete it. | ||
* Carahil in the Anvil Mages Guild and Kud-Ei in the Bravil Mages Guild can both start this quest. Both NPCs are directly talked to for other route logic (They both have recommendation quests and Kud-Ei also has [[Oblivion:Through A Nightmare, Darkly|Through A Nightmare, Darkly]]) so either NPC may be optimal depending on the route logic. | |||
==Script Analysis== | ==Script Analysis== | ||
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|| Martina Floria is dead. It is now impossible for me to be taught more about Illusion magic. | || Martina Floria is dead. It is now impossible for me to be taught more about Illusion magic. | ||
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Latest revision as of 22:41, 12 October 2022
Current Best Route
Quest stages are indicated in parentheses at the end of each step when they are updated. Keep in mind that these optimized steps are within the context of the 100% speedrun route, meaning that certain items and setups are sometimes assumed to have already been performed prior to the start of the quest.
- Fast travel to the Anvil Mages Guild. With your Illusion boosted to 70+ (with Class Reset in the current route logic), talk to Carahil.
- ↳ Training. (10)
- Acquire a Welkynd Stone. (This is done while getting the Ayleid Statue in Welke in current route logic.)
- Dupe the Welkynd Stone so that you have 10 of them.
- Fast travel to the Quest Marker to talk to Martina Floria.
- ↳ Training. (20)
- ↳ Training. (✔ 100)
Bugs
Currently there are no known bugs associated with this quest that affect the 100% route.
Route Logic Considerations
- By the time we are able to talk to Martina Floria, we are already a member of the Mages Guild and do not want to get kicked out by killing her instead of completing her quest normally. We should experiment with killing her to fulfill one instance of the Mages Guild Suspension. It is worth noting that every stage of this quest is achieved with virtually no extra time added to the run since all items and NPCs are directly next to other objectives, so this may not end up saving much time at all.
- Martina Floria appears in the Chironasium around 12am, which is where you need to be at 12am to finish A Mage's Staff, so ideally you should be one step away from finishing Illusion Training before finishing A Mage's Staff to overlap the route logic.
- Martina never leaves the Chironasium, meaning you either need to have completed Join the Mages Guild or set up the Early Arcane University glitch to be able to complete it.
- Ideal sources for the Welkynd Stone are under-researched. See the item page for Welkynd Stones for more info.
- Like all the Master Training quests, the actual Master Trainer needs to be alive prior to starting the quest in order to be able to complete it.
- Carahil in the Anvil Mages Guild and Kud-Ei in the Bravil Mages Guild can both start this quest. Both NPCs are directly talked to for other route logic (They both have recommendation quests and Kud-Ei also has Through A Nightmare, Darkly) so either NPC may be optimal depending on the route logic.
Script Analysis
No script analysis has been done for this quest.
Quest Stages
| Stage | Finish | setstage Scripts | Journal Entry |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 | I need to speak with Martina Floria if I want further Illusion training. She can be found at the Arcane University in the Imperial City. | ||
| 20 | I need to bring ten Welkynd Stones to Martina Floria if I want her help in Illusion training. | ||
| 100 | ✔ | Martina Floria has agreed to train me. | |
| 200 | ✔ | Martina Floria is dead. It is now impossible for me to be taught more about Illusion magic. |